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In the liner notes for Speak Now TV Taylor said that "Last Kiss" was the saddest song she's written. Meaning that nothing from Debut to Midnights topped that to her, so is there anything on TTPD or TLOAS that is sadder than "Last Kiss"?

If i had to pick any song to be her new saddest I'd say it "loml" but I wonder if other people would agree

in 2026 taylor submitted 5 tracks to represent her songwriting catalogue when she was inducted into the songwriters hall of fame – youngest woman ever !!

she picked :

- all too well 10 min. version

- blank space

- anti-hero

- love story

- the last great american dynasty

which 5 songs would you have picked ?

The story of Ariade, Theseus, and Dionyus.

Ariadne, the daughter of King Minos of Crete, helps the Greek hero Theseus,ndefeat the Minotaur, the half-man, half-bull creature hidden within the Labyrinth. When Theseus arrives in Crete as one of the youths sent as a sacrifice to the Minotaur, Ariadne falls in love with him and gives him a ball of thread to guide him out of the Labyrinth after he kills the monster. In return, Theseus promises to take her away with him and marry her.

Ariadne leaves Crete behind, betraying her own family and homeland for Theseus. However, after they arrive on the island of Naxos, Theseus abandons her while she sleeps or leaves her behind while she is stranded there. In many versions of the myth, Theseus abandons Ariadne for his own reasons, sometimes connected to another woman. In other ancient traditions (the one I am referencing) however, Dionysus, the god of wine, ecstasy, vegetation, epiphany and rebirth, whose sacred plant is Ivy, claims Ariadne as his bride, and Theseus leaves her because of the god’s intervention.

Left alone on Naxos, Ariadne experiences the collapse of the future she believed she had chosen. The hero she sacrificed everything for is gone, and she is left in a place of grief and uncertainty. It is there that Dionysus finds her. Rather than remaining a forgotten and abandoned woman, Ariadne becomes the beloved of a god. Their union transforms her fate: she becomes Dionysus’ divine consort, and in some traditions her wedding crown is placed among the stars as the constellation Corona Borealis.

Including a link to a MUCH better breakdown of this!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreekMythology/s/ddQS4fo7ak

(You can already see some ties to other phrases in her songs; exile, invisible string, the labyrinth)

I'm not suggesting the songs are FULLY about these characters, please keep that in mind.

This is from the Pherecydes/Philostratus tradition of the myth:

"How's one to know? I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones"

"In a faith forgotten land"

"In from the snow"

"Your touch brought forth an incandescent glow"

"Tarnished but so grand"

"And the old widow goes to the stone every day

But I don't I just sit here and wait

Grieving for the living"

The spirit meets the bones, a place between life and death, representing the Labyrinth, as she waits outside for him to resurface. His touch brought forth an incandescent glow. However, She's been abandoned by him after saving his life

on Naxos, the forgotten land. She risked it all for him only to be left out by the shore alone awaiting his return. She still sees the greatness she once loved in him, but that greatness has been stained by betrayal. (Tarnished but so grand)

When you lose someone, you go to a grave to mourn them. In her case, there is no grave. She sits grieving a man who is still alive, somewhere out there on the horizon.

"Oh, goddamn

My pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand

Taking mine, but it's been promised to another

Oh, I can't

Stop you putting roots in my dreamland

My house of stone, your ivy grows

And now I'm covered in you"

Dioynus isn't approaching her from a place of love, but possession, "freezing hand" doesn't imply that this person is approaching her with the warmth of love. His love seems cold and superficial. Snow represents coldness, maybe an emotional winter and he is coming to her in her place of sadness. The very cause of her "snow". Offering not a warm hand, but holding her hurt in his cold hand. Ivy grows on abandoned buildings. Ivy is invasive. He took her Dreamland with Theseus and put down his roots in it. She didn't choose Dionyus, he chose her.

"I wish to know

The fatal flaw that makes you long to be

Magnificently cursed"

“The fatal flaw” connects to the Greek idea of hamartia... the mistake, weakness, or character flaw that brings about a hero’s suffering or downfall

What flaw allowed you to become both my savior and my betrayer? He was cursed by the fact that he was supposed to be sacrificed and then cursed by not being able to be with her.

"He's in the room (Dionyus)

Your opal eyes are all I wish to see

He wants what's only yours (Dionyus)

Clover blooms in the fields"

I see this from the perspective of Ariadne meeting with Theseus later on. This is NOT in the mythology, but as if written from the inspiration of her perspective, possibly mixed from other things. She was clearly very attached to Theseus and again, she wanted Theseus but Dioynus wanted her.

Dionyus is associated with the seasonal renewal of spring, the growth of vines. Crescent moon indicates secrecy or something being hidden. If they met in secret, if she ran from Dionyus, if she got to choose then what would he do?

"How's one to know?

I'd live and die for moments that we stole

On begged and borrowed time

So tell me to run

Or dare to sit and watch what we'll become

And drink my husband's wine"

Her and Theseus had limited time together and thinking back on the moments of betrayal to be together for it to only be short lived.

Dionyus is the God of wine, her now husband.

I don't want to add too much of my own interpretation here because it goes beyond the original myth, like I did in the previous verse. What we do know is that in ancient versions, Theseus abandons her because Dionyus lays claim to her. We know Dionyus is the God of wine, rebirth, vegetation, ivy, spring etc. Many of these are prominent throughout the song. And of course, you could also interpret it many different ways from other versions as well, But so many of the lyrics brought imagery of this tale to me. Is it perfect, exact, and on point ? No. Do I think it's supposed to an exact tale? No. But, the specific words used in here remind me of the story and art is subjective. Do I see where she may have drawn inspiration? Of course. The album is called, Folklore, after all, so imagining some of the lyrics tying back to these tales, I wouldn't say is completely far fetched.

I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions. This might just be a stupid interpretation and I understand that.

ETA: I included a link to another reddit post with a much better break down. https://www.reddit.com/r/GreekMythology/s/ddQS4fo7ak

Taylor obviously has plenty of hits and songs that have made their way into the mainstream, and Swifties have a LOT to do with that success. We talk often about how there are songs that we adore that non-Swifties don’t seem to get. But what are the songs casual fans/non-fans seem to really appreciate that maybe we don’t like or understand as much?

Basically the title.

One I'll always defend: Wi$h Li$t (I think it is catchy and has such a cute bridge!)

Cannot defend: Wood (seems like a Sabrina rip-off and I think the lyrics are a little too cringey for my taste)

While it does look like Taylor will go back to her country roots for her much anticipated TS13, I have a fantasy of her putting out a scathing album with the energy of Father Figure. Taylor is at that point in her career where she’s too big to fail, she’s made it, and it seems like there is also an air of Tay-negativity around what with her becoming a billionaire, all too powerful, and the object of so much cultural commentary and direction. It seems like everything she does becomes a topic for discussion about the state of the world. I think this is the perfect opportunity to grab on to this public sentiment and give her two cents on it. Like she said- “they want to see you rise but they don’t want you to reign”. I think that’s exactly how people feel about her right now. Here’s my imaginary 13 track album:

Father Figure

1) Built in Stone (about becoming too big to fail)

2) Ordinary Forever (finding true love)

3) No One Likes A Martyr (about how people cannot perceive her as a “victim” anymore)

4) Salt and Soil (about loyalty)

5) First Draft (Wondering if this is really who she wanted to be when she was 15)

6) Longest Dining Table (fantasizing a Sunday brunch in a distant future with her children, husband and parents)

7) Different Eyes (Accepting that she cannot be ordinary even if she wanted to. This is what she signed up for)

8) Reserved for Guests (fake friendships and professional relationships)

9) Headlines (satire song about everything people got wrong about her)

10 Family Tree (about gratitude to her parents and brother)

11) True North (Wondering where to to go from here)

12) One Last Summer (Yearning for one summer as a child)

13) Written Before Me (About how it was always her who was destined for greatness)

She didn’t play it on the Eras Tour as a surprise song and & doesn’t spotlight it anywhere else. Is there a particular reason for that?

Ivy is foreshadowing for LOML, basically a part 1. These songs parallel each other so well.

Ivy: the first line “I’ll meet you where the spirit meets the bones” they are meeting up in cemeteries (whether literal or metaphorical).
LOML: still alive killing time at the cemetery, never quite buried.

Ivy: So yeah, it’s a fire, it’s a goddam blaze in the dark. And you started it.
LOML: Your arson’s match.

In The City by MH: Don’t call it a fight when you know it’s a war.

Ivy: So yeah, it’s a war. It’s the goddamn fight of my life and you started it.

It seems like Ivy was written while she was in a relationship that wasn’t ideal, but it was safe. Then she has an emotional affair with a man who coaxes her into leaving her fiancé, just for him to leave. “Mr. Steal your girl, then make her cry”. It does seem like the affair partner is trying to convince her or at least initiating the affair, with “you started it” repeating so many times in Ivy.

LOML is an update to Ivy, or the sequel or the tragic ending. I do believe that her continued use of symbolism across these songs is purposeful and she wants us to make these connections. Her mind is insane and she is so talented 🫶🏼

I've realized something about right where you left me that makes the song hit so much harder the more I listen to it.

When I first heard it, I thought it was just a good song. But over time, as I keep coming back to it, the emotional weight has shifted from just a sad song to something that literally gives me goosebumps.

I think the tragedy is that the song has become the character's prison and we are the witnesses. When you first hear it, you're just a guest walking into that restaurant for four minutes. You see her there and you feel bad for her. But as the years pass and you keep revisiting the track, she is still there. It's not just that she's telling us that she's frozen in time. You feel it yourself, cause not a single lyric has changed. It doesn't matter if it's been one year or five since you first discovered the song, every time you start it, she's there. And even after 10 years, nothing will change in that song, which means she will forever be trapped in that state. The song itself just became her trap. It's so devastating.